I'm sure it won't last long, but, I am leaving, and, before I go, I'd like to share with what i wrote to them, where it asks for the reason :
This site is rife with silly bitches, male and female; false profiles; women who rule the forum with stinky iron cootchies; and, the SUPPORT is utterly laughable. Goodbye. I hope you get shut down soon.
I know it is rather short and subtle, but, I do hope they can read between the lines and get the salient points, all the same.
7/15/2011 12:05:26 PM |
I think most people have sub and slave firmly confused in their minds. I say this, as I just read a profile, again, where a person claimed to be a different sort of sub, but, definitely sub and not slave; and, why are they different? Because, they have a mind and a will of their own, their own personality, they won't just give in to your whims, etc;, but, they will obey, once they find the person who suits their needs.
Honey, that's not submissive! And, even more so, it is not being a submissive.
A submissive submits. That's what they do. They need someone to control them, cajole them into doing what the other person wills, as that is how they get their kicks.
If you're a female who does not want that, but, who does want a strong man who will protect you, guide you, show you how to please him, use your body for his private entertainment, and, allow you to fetch him dinner and sit at your feet, you probably are, after all, just a woman. No other title needed.
A slave has their own free will - contrary to popular belief- and they are expected to use their own mind. Because, with slaves, it is not about them being controlled, so much as them giving, sharing, getting things done, feeling accomplished. Slaves may submit, but, they are not submissives, and, they are not always submissive, either.
Example:
Tell a submissive to lay down on their tummy, hands behind their back, and, not to move, no matter what, and, they will not move, no matter what. At least, that is true, until you pushed them too far. Tell them not to speak and you better hope they didn't leave rice cooking on the back burner, or, you'll end up with a stinky house and a very bad dinner.
Do the same thing with a slave, and, perhaps they'll do it, if they know they have free time. Otherwise, they will probably remind you of the rice cooking on the stove, and, ask permission to finish dinner first, if that's what is going on. Or, they might ask for clarification on the change of schedule. They have things to do, people to take care of. Yes, they know they may get beat for failure to submit, but, submission is not their primary function, service is. And, sometimes service means being in adverse situations wherein you must disobey, at least a little, to keep things functional.
Am I getting the point across? Slaves do not subsume their will to yours. What they love is duty, well thought out strategy, clearly defined ways of living. Soldiers make good slaves, specifically because they come pre-trained in how to balance their life of service with their day to day 'regular' life, and, to be proud of their accomplishments, when they have done their duty well and obeyed effectively, whether the duty was storming a beach front or digging a ditch. But, look at them. They are not wimpy, they do not grovel, they have completely free will, and, by their free will, choose to follow either the protocols and regulations, or the person who has captured their heart by their ability to lead. They'd prefer the latter, but, the former will do.
That's what a slave is. A slave will be told 'Here are the protocols.' and they will learn them, and, go on with their duties and be proud of what they have achieved, even if they have zero respect for their owner. It is not their job to love their owner, though it is preferable. It is their job to perform their duties well.
Submissives need to believe that whatever their owner does is right, though. Submissives make lousy soldiers, as they cannot balance the dichotomy of the differing lifestyles into one whole life, and, they cannot choose whether to follow the rule or the ruler. They do not think well on their feet, and, they are not capable of choosing their own path, then, accepting the consequences, later, because, it is unthinkable to disobey.
Slaves disobey, when it is necessary. If a slave fully obeys your order, they are probably doing it out of spite. If they obey the spirit of your order, rather than the actual contents, they are probably doing it out of respect. Why? Because, most orders are given rather hastily, and, badly.
'Go in the bathroom and fetch me the pink towel.' you will say. However, the pink towel is not in the bathroom, but, the blue one is. This stops a submissive cold. You've just gone beyond their ability to follow an order. They stop dead in their tracks, or, they return to you for clarification. Not much gets done with submissives, when they are in mode anyway, but, they can be fun to play with.
The slave would go in, see the blue towel is there, assess the situation, and, then make the best guess, based on their knowledge of you, what to do. They might bring the blue towel, they might go to where the pink towel is and fetch it, or, they might bring you both, and, let you decide which one you truly want. |
Again, the one is focusing on the order, the other is focusing on the task needing to be accomplished Submissives are inherently more selfish than slaves in that way. It's all 'me, me, me' with submissives 'I obey you. I grovel. I need orders.' versus a slave's 'Do you need me to serve you? Would you like some tea? Do you want me to kneel?' It's a hard thing, to see the distinction, at times, but, in the end, the difference will out. |
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